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Delphi Mac Digest Sunday, 12 October 1986 Volume 2 : Issue 51 Today's Topics: RE: Versions in the night... (Re: Msg 13522) RE: Radius FPD (Re: Msg 13555) RE: Beep on startup (Re: Msg 13542) DA Installer + (2 messages) RE: Davong 10MB Hard Disk RE: DataFrame spooler problems.. (Re: Msg 13527) (2 messages) disk initialization bug? (2 messages) MACazine errors AST 2000 tape backup problem HORIZONTAL lines!?! (3 messages) IBM MultiMate to MSWord... A better disk performance analyser... Non-ejectable volumes Problem with SCSI HD PageMaker 2.0 (3 messages) Alisa = VAX + Mac 100mb SCSI RE: 100mb SCSI (Re: Msg 13645) Micah Drive still around? (2 messages) Fast Printer (2 messages) Heap Fragmentation Problem RE: Cooling fans INIT 31 mechanism (3 messages) s/w dev tools HyperDrive FX/20 code segments (2 messages) Usenut Digest Vol. 3 #54 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DSACHS (13559) Subject: RE: Versions in the night... (Re: Msg 13522) Date: 8-OCT-21:27: Mousing Around The story I have is that the new Fontographer will start from the SCREEN version of a font. ------------------------------ From: DDUNHAM (13560) Subject: RE: Radius FPD (Re: Msg 13555) Date: 8-OCT-21:27: Hardware & Peripherals More in the FPD saga... TMON won't work with the FPD screen running. I called ICOM, and they said they don't have an FPD and therefore they don't support it, call back in a month. :-( The screen itself is very nice. The letters are a bit smaller, and there is one major ergonomic failure: neck strain. Yup, I'm not used to tilting my head down to read something. I've already got two telephone books under the monitor, it looks like I'll be going to at least 3. The biggest problem is with software that doesn't like windows bigger than their documents. Also, the first two Mac word processors don't work too well with page-sized windows. Luckily, the next crop, including MacAuthor, WriteNow, and HabaWord, all work fine. Computer Ware in Palo Alto has the FPD on their price list, but I asked -Radius if other people would have to send in their Mac like I did, and they said -that for the time being, that's how they're handling it. (I asked before I saw -the Computer Ware catalog.) ------------------------------ From: IVANOVIC (13561) Subject: RE: Beep on startup (Re: Msg 13542) Date: 8-OCT-21:51: Bugs & Features I have no alarm clock as a DA. I wonder if the startup code checks the value of a global (usually set by the alarm clock) to determine if a beep is appropriate. Changing system files usually fixes the "problem." I've noticed no other effects. ------------------------------ From: INC (13563) Subject: DA Installer + Date: 8-OCT-22:10: Business Mac Has anyone used this or have any comment on it? It seems to work pretty well for me most of the time. It did corrupt the system on my DatingGame 20 today though. (There's a name for you alf!). Any views? comments, etc? josh ------------------------------ From: LOFTUSBECKER (13566) Subject: RE: DA Installer + (Re: Msg 13563) Date: 8-OCT-22:27: Business Mac One thing DA Installer+ does is mark all MENU resources as purgeable, -I'm told. If you use it, afterwards use ResEdit to make them unpurgeable. A -purged menu does bad things. -Lofty ------------------------------ From: DSACHS (13564) Subject: RE: Davong 10MB Hard Disk Date: 8-OCT-22:11: Network Digests RE: The problem of Mr. Harvey. Try erasing a volume from the Finder (5.3). The volume will become HFS if it is big enough. ------------------------------ From: LAMG (13576) Subject: RE: DataFrame spooler problems.. (Re: Msg 13527) Date: 9-OCT-03:08: Hardware & Peripherals Doug: I've used the Spooler with MacDraw, MacWrite and Dollars and Sense -with no problems - haven't tried it with MacPaint. -Franklin ------------------------------ From: MADMACS (13597) Subject: RE: DataFrame spooler problems.. (Re: Msg 13576) Date: 9-OCT-18:46: Hardware & Peripherals Yes, it does work with MacDraw, MacWrite but not with Paint or FullPaint. I have tried MaxPrint on my DataFrame and it works well with everything (so far). I don't like the way it works as much as I like SuperSpooler, however. In MaxPrint the document begins to print from the spool almost immeadiately. This means that the spooling operation (i.e. the time during which the Pause, Continue, Cancel dialog is on the screen) takes much longer, since the spooling is competing with the printing. In SuperSpooler the printing stops while the document is spooled so that you are returned to the program much faster. I like this much better. After all, if I am spooling the files I want to have them spooled quickly and then get on with it, rather than fight with the printer for CPU time. Let it print when I am on the phone or doing something else. -Doug ------------------------------ From: RAMARREN (13579) Subject: disk initialization bug? Date: 9-OCT-04:10: Bugs & Features Lately i've been getting a strange bug with my floppy drives. the environment is a 512K Mac with MacMemory 1.5 MB add on, HD20, 128K ROMs and two 800K drives. the HD is about 10-11 Meg full. on sporadic occasion, the drives refuse to acknowledge a disk insertion, or cannot read a diskette that was running perfectly happily ten seconds before. the standard disk initialization dialogue goes up, I click eject, nothing happens. The only recourse is to reboot the machine, holding the mouse button down for a forced eject. this happens randomly on both floppies. Same disks will read and write perfectly the rest of the time. similar problems happen also randomly when I call Erase Disk functions. has anyone else seen this problem? i ran a set of hardware test programs I have on the machine and they report nothing unusual in the drives, RAM,etc. would certainly like to hear about such. thanks. gdg ps:: in a moment of backup frenzy, I decided to do a test on mainstay's FLA hard disk backup program: I backed up the entire HD20, reinitialized it, and then restored the whole thing. FlashBack worked flawlessly, did a reasonable job of backing things up neatly (11 meg onto 14 800K floppies in 18-20 min, same restore) and I recovered nearly a meg of space in the process. thought you'd like to know; I have no connection with mainstay other than now being sure that I will recommend their product to my users group and purchase the copy of it loaned to me to test by my dealer. -gdg ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH (13592) Subject: RE: disk initialization bug? (Re: Msg 13579) Date: 9-OCT-11:39: Bugs & Features This is interesting, because a fellow at the Boston Computer Society meeting last night reported the same problem. (Lou Gross). I think he also has expanded memory, although I don't know who the manufacturer is. This is a weird problem, but seems to be a real one. Lou also found his only option was to reboot the machine, after which the same disk would be read fine. Finder 5.3/System 3.2 bug??? Ric ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH (13585) Subject: MACazine errors Date: 9-OCT-10:43: Hardware & Peripherals MACazine, September 1986, published some of our benchmark tests in an article by Michael Holloway (p. 92). Their sloppy layout created a lot of errors and typos in the results. In addition, there is virtually no interpretation of the information (which may be a good thing in this case ...). To get the correct information, download our data in computer-readable form from the ICONtact Hardware database, or contact us directly at: "MacInTouch" Ford-LePage, Inc. PO Box 786 Framingham, MA 01701 617-661-8609 Ric Ford Editor ------------------------------ From: MADMACS (13598) Subject: AST 2000 tape backup problem Date: 9-OCT-18:56: Hardware & Peripherals Recently, when I was helping some friends back up their AST2000 to tape, we got an alert that said "Error Writing to Tape" (To which you have to click the button "OK" -- "Sure, hey, that's great!" Has anyone else had this problem? The tape seems to be ok and when when we copied on of the files back to the hard disk it appeared to be undamaged. Is the drive fully backed up though? -Doug ------------------------------ From: INC (13612) Subject: HORIZONTAL lines!?! Date: 9-OCT-22:27: Hardware & Peripherals A friend is having problems with their Mac 512. She has horizontal lines -from top to bottom about 1/8" apart, 1 dot thick (black lines). She said it would make great stationary but doesn't want her mac to look like that.... Any ideas? Off to service? thanks. josh = ------------------------------ From: DWB (13624) Subject: RE: HORIZONTAL lines!?! (Re: Msg 13612) Date: 10-OCT 03:07 Hardware & Peripherals Sounds like a dead memory chip to me. It is, if not a memory chip, at least a memory circuitry problem. Have her take it in to a dealer. It's even suprising that it works at all... David ------------------------------ From: INC (13648) Subject: RE: HORIZONTAL lines!?! (Re: Msg 13624) Date: 10-OCT 21:18 Hardware & Peripherals Embarrassing. It turned out to be their, hold your breath, desktop pattern. People need to learn how to explain things better! josh ------------------------------ From: INC (13613) Subject: IBM MultiMate to MSWord... Date: 9-OCT-22:30: Business Mac Ok, here's a great one. I want to know if there is an easier way to convert -a MultiMate file from the Ibm to the mac, without having to: > convert to ascii > send over the phone > strip control-characters > " line feeds > strip random garbage > load it in to the Word (or Write) > reformat. Well? thanks in advance. josh ------------------------------ From: BRECHER (13625) Subject: A better disk performance analyser... Date: 10-OCT 06:10 MUGS Online To: Scott Comer <wert@rice.edu> Subject: A better disk performance analyser... Seems to me this test will more reflect the presence/size of the cache and -the degree of file free-space fragmentation than the performance of the disk subsystem itself. One who has already purchased a particular disk drive knows its usable performance through use. The problem is to compare competing candidate subsystems on a basis which eliminates confounding variables such as cacheing and the distribution of file free space. ------------------------------ From: BRECHER (13627) Subject: Non-ejectable volumes Date: 10-OCT 06:11 MUGS Online To: bates@ssdevo.dec.com (Ken Bates DTN 522-2039) Subject: Non-ejectable volumes > Is there a quick and easy way to determine if a specific volume is a hard > disk, e.g., non-ejectable [from the information returned by PBGetVInfo]? If you really want to know whether the drive is marked non-ejectable, you have to access the drive queue element. However, some disks which are for most intents and purposes "hard" are also ejectable, e.g., Bernoulli Box volumes. It might suit your purpose to observe whether or not the drive number is 1 or 2 -- internal or external floppy. The drive number is returned by PBHGetVInfo, but not by PBGetVInfo. If HFS is not present, you'd need to walk the VCB queue instead of using PBGetVInfo in order to get the drive numbers. If you need to access the drive queue element, the drive number would be the key to match against when walking the drive queue. Another clue is the size of the volume, ioVNmAlBlks*ioVAlBlkSiz + -ioAlBlSt*512. If it's less than or equal to 800K, then it's either a floppy or a small partition of a hard disk. ------------------------------ From: BRECHER (13628) Subject: Problem with SCSI HD Date: 10-OCT 06:12 MUGS Online To: saeta@husc4.harvard.edu (peter saeta) Subject: Problem with SCSI HD > I have a 30Mbyte Magic 30 SCSI hard disk made by Rabbit Technologies and > experience the following problem. With the HD running, regardless of -whether > it was the startup disk, regardless of whether the application launched is > on the HD, programs which operate in realtime run much slower and jerkily. > ... > We called Rabbit Technologies who claimed that the problem was with the > Apple ROM (!!!)... that every SCSI hard disk has the same problem when > there are many files on the disk. Their claim is nonsense. Here's a wild guess as to what's causing the problem. Most SCSI disks get themselves mounted by setting the dNeedTime bit in the driver when the driver is first opened, so that the driver will get called when the first -application calls SystemTask the first time. If the driver neglects to reset the -dNeedTime bit, it will get a call on every SystemTask forever after. I don't have a lot of confidence in this theory, but it might be worth mentioning to -Rabbit. If you're at home with a debugger, you could test the theory by breakpointing on the driver's Control entry point at a time when most any application is just idling. If Control is entered, there's something wrong, and if $1A(A0) contains $41, the theory is confirmed. The DCE handle is at the address contained in $11C, plus 4*SCSI ID. The -first long in the DCE is the driver address. The word at offset $0C into the -driver plus the address of the driver is the Control entry point. ------------------------------ From: MACMAG (13639) Subject: PageMaker 2.0 Date: 10-OCT 13:52 Business Mac Since nobody is mentioning anything about it I thought I'd give you a few of the new features that will appear in the new version of PageMaker comming ou at the end of this month, begining of November. - Kerning - Leading with special FFT files - Automatic hyphenation - Built-in dictionary - Recovery from temporary files ( if your file crashes ) - Inclusion of Postscript ( You can even put a PageMaker page inside a PageMaker document ) - Better screen display representation - Improved support for bigger resolution -devices - Improved publication size of document ( you'll be able to create PageMaker documents of 120 pages ) That's it for now, more when we finished playing with the beta. Rich. ------------------------------ From: MACMAG (13661) Subject: RE: PageMaker 2.0 (Re: Msg 13654) Date: 11-OCT 02:03 Business Mac Ok here's the goulash in more details: PageMaker 2.0 will be able to read MacWrite, Text-only, Microsoft Word, MacPaint MacDraw, Microsoft Works, MacDraft, FullPaint, Cricket Graph, PICT, Cricket Draw, and Postscript files via the Place command. Hyphenation -=-=-=-=-=- PMaker 2.0 will support 3 methods of doing hyphenation: Automatic (which will be available from a 90,000-word dictionary supplied by Houghton-Mifflin -Comp.). You will be able to add 1,000 words of your own choosing. There will also be prompted hyphenation for your own personal entries, and last there will be the standard manual discretionary hyphens by keyboard (a la Microsoft Word). Kerning -=-=-=- There will be two forms of kerning. Automatic pair kerning will work with pre-defined pairs of characters established by the font manufacturer. Manual kerning is the other, via the keyboard, to loosen and tighten the space between any two letters. Spacing -=-=-=- There is now a major rewrite over spacing capabilities. This includes word spacing (inter-word spacing). For justifies text, the user has the option to control the maximum and minimum amount of spacing. Letter spacing is the inter-character spacing. This automatically ajusts the space between letters within a line of text to eliminate excess white space. Last, there's paragraph spacing. You'll be able to specify additional space before and after paragraphs in half-point increments. Leader Tabs -=-=-=-=-=- PMaker 2.0 now supports leader-filled tabs. This feature will fill the space preceeding tabs with thin-space periods, dashes, underlines, or user defined leaders up to two different characters. Fixed Spaces -=-=-=-=-=-= Supported are em-space, en-space, and thin-space characters. TEXT -=-= With a single menu or keyboard command, a portion of text can change from upper case to lowercase to all caps to small caps or even strike-thru -letters. Larger publications -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- With a new numbering systems, 2.0 creates files of up to 128 pages. Combined, you can have numbered pages of up to 9,9999 pages. Interactive facing pages -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The five interactive viewing sizes can be displayed as single pages or facing pages. With a facing page view you can work on a double-page spread without having to shift back to left/right pages. Lines -=-=- There are new line styles such as half-point and reversed. Half-point fills the gap between the hairline and one-point line. With the reverse command any line style will reverse white out of black. Column Width Sizing -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- You can now resize the lenght or width of a column by dragging the mouse. Text editing -=-=-=-=-=-= Editing can now be done through keyboard shortcuts. There are also cursor control keys for text modification. Selection -=-=-=-=- You now have the ability to select either an entire story or all the objects on a page with one command. Selecting an entire story allows you to make global changes such as text attributes or point sizes for the whole story. Fast Move -=-=-=-=- Text blocks can be moved quickly on screen by pressing the mouse. This way you will drag a box outline of the desired object. If this isn't suitable, by pressing the mouse down a little longer, you will see the complete image. Scanned image support -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Postscript graphic files can now be placed in PageMaker where they can be scaled and cropped. If a screen image of the graphic is included with the PScript file, it is displayed when the file is placed in PMaker. Otherwise no representation will appear. A box outline representing the exact size will otherwise appear. You can even place a PageMaker page in your PageMaker documents! High resolution scanners that support the standard Tag Image File Format -(TIFF) such as the Microtek, DEST, Datacopy and others will be fully supported. Display enhancements -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= An image that had been cropped to fit a given space can be scrolled to expose a different part of the original image. Screen positioning of line endings is an exact representation of their printed version. Accuracy of rulers, line styles and positioning has been improved for every page view. Spooling -=-=-=-= PageMaker 2.0 will support spooling using Apple's new print spooling -protocol. Printing enhancements -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- PMaker will calculate ideal enlargements and reduction factors based on the printer's resolution, for bit-map graphics. This will iliminate irregula- rities in bit-maps with regular patterns. There will also be automatic tiling for documents that run larger than 8 1/2 by 11. Automatic crop marks on final documents will be printed where it should be trimmed. You'll be able to print pages in reverse order and collate pages. The ImageWriter will be part of the deal in the way of better support and taking advantage of it's unique features. Text and Graphics output on the ImageWriter can now more acurately match LaserWriter output. Overall -=-=-=- You'll see over performance improvents in text editing, save, goto page, -open, and close commands, and the support of large screen displays. Crash -=-=- PageMaker now has a built-in mechanism for crash recovery. damaged files can now be restored to the state of the last turned page. Voila, hope this wets your appetite. That's all for now, I'll keep you all informed on comming attractions such as SuperPaint and Solo. Ciao for now. Richard Brandow MacMag Software front. ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH (13683) Subject: RE: PageMaker 2.0 (Re: Msg 13661) Date: 11-OCT 10:49 Business Mac Rich, What about Place-ing digitized images from Microtek, Thunderscan and similar files?? Ric ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH (13640) Subject: Alisa = VAX + Mac Date: 10-OCT 17:31 Business Mac Bob Denny is the fellow who writes about C in MacTutor. He's also the president of Alisa Systems. The newly announced version of Helix which runs on a VAX was apparently written with the help of (or by) Alisa Systems. In addition, Alisa has announced VAX file server and laser spooling software. It looks like a giant step forward for Macintosh fans in DEC environments. Alisa is at 211 E. Walnut St., Suite 230, Pasadena, CA 91100; 818-792-9474. We'll be following up on what they're doing and we hope others will too, sending more news through the nets. Ric Ford "MacInTouch" newsletter ------------------------------ From: HSTARR (13645) Subject: 100mb SCSI Date: 10-OCT 19:16 Hardware & Peripherals Hey guys -- does any one have any experience, or comments, about the 100mb -SCSI drives being offered by Gabriel SYstems. They are using Priam v185 drives -with Adaptec controller. The 60mb lists for $1795, the 88mb for $2195 and the -100mb for $2595. .These drives claim 30msec seek, are RLL encoded and claim to run with a 1:1 interleave. Comments anyone!! [ I have no commercial interest in Gabriel systems ] ------------------------------ From: BRECHER (13675) Subject: RE: 100mb SCSI (Re: Msg 13645) Date: 11-OCT 07:39 Hardware & Peripherals Ask them how big the controller buffer is. If it's the Adaptec 4070 or similar, it's 1K -- hardly enough to support 1:1 interleave with RLL. If it's got a full-track buffer, then maybe. ------------------------------ From: WESTEN (13649) Subject: Micah Drive still around? Date: 10-OCT 21:18 Hardware & Peripherals This may sound completely silly, but the HyperDrive Rep for my area told me that the Micah drive people filed for chapter 11 today. Is this true??? I had not heard of any weakness at the company, but I may be out of touch. Or, is the rep perhaps conning me a bit?? -Chuck ------------------------------ From: BRECHER (13676) Subject: RE: Micah Drive still around? (Re: Msg 13649) Date: 11-OCT 07:39 Hardware & Peripherals Control of MICAH was recently acquired by a well-funded company. The new majority owners decided that a chapter 11 filing was best for the longevity -of MICAH. The reasons for this are tied both to general financial difficulties that MICAH had gotten into pre-acquisition, and to a specific and serious problem that had arisen with one key vendor which threatened MICAH's -existence. The foregoing is what I am told (I am a contractor to MICAH). The new -majority owners appear to be confident in MICAH's product and market position, and in their own ability to provide the sound financial management that had been previously lacking. Turn-arounds seem to be their specialty. I was disappointed to find out about the chapter 11 filing, because (a) it -does complicate the business dealings with the company of vendors such as myself -for awhile; but more important (b) most people incorrectly interpret chapter 11 -to mean "belly up," and I thought that would hurt MICAH's marketing efforts -among end users. However, the new majority owners still thought that chapter 11 -was on balance the best course. ------------------------------ From: OHMSOFT (13656) Subject: Fast Printer Date: 11-OCT 00:27 Hardware & Peripherals Does anyone know of a successful interface of a Mac to a high speed (band or dot matrix) printer? I'm thinking of something in the 150-300 lines per minute range with acceptable forms handling pinfeeders & capability for multi-part forms. With our SCSI drives getting bigger & bigger, we'll need a way to print out all this data, eventually. ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH (13684) Subject: RE: Fast Printer (Re: Msg 13656) Date: 11-OCT 10:51 Hardware & Peripherals Can you get serial interfaces on those printers? Seems like the only problem would be an appropriate printer driver software file that understands the control characters used. Ric ------------------------------ From: BRECHER (13673) Subject: Heap Fragmentation Problem Date: 11-OCT 07:38 MUGS Online To: JDM%SMVL%rca.com@CSNET-RELAY.ARPA Subject: Heap Fragmentation Problem > Does anyone know what can be done to stop CODE 1 from begin placed in > the middle of the heap? Make sure it has the resLocked attribute in the resource file. The segment loader will load CODE resources that are not resLocked at the top of the -heap, which, in the case of CODE 1, occurs before you've called MaxApplZone -- so -the top at that time will become "1/3 of the way" later. ------------------------------ From: MACINTOUCH (13677) Subject: RE: Cooling fans Date: 11-OCT 10:22 Network Digests One thing that I haven't seen noted in the fan discussion was brought up a while back on CompuServe. It seems that almost all the air pulled into a stock Mac for cooling comes from the _front_ vent, and not from either of the side vents. This implies that one should take care not to block that vent, by pushing the keyboard up against it for instance. Ric Ford ------------------------------ From: HSTARR (843) Subject: INIT 31 mechanism Date: 10-OCT 22:08 Programming Techniques Be aware that when your code is running as an INIT under the INIT 31 -mechanism, that you are a Handle via an open resource file. If you use SetAppBase, which destroys the Application heap, and consequently, the Resource Map, you are -left dangling in mid air. If you indulge in App heap or memory related size -changes, you would be better off to do a _RecoverHandle , _DetachHandle to preserve -the Mac memory managers view of your code. I hope this helps someone! ------------------------------ From: PEABO (844) Subject: RE: INIT 31 mechanism (Re: Msg 843) Date: 11-OCT 00:51 Programming Techniques I'd imagine also that a bug related to that could remain hidden for a good -deal longer than it would in a normal application, since the environment during -the running of INIT's is much less chaotic than it is in an active application. peter ------------------------------ From: HSTARR (847) Subject: RE: INIT 31 mechanism (Re: Msg 844) Date: 11-OCT 15:53 Programming Techniques I first encountered this problem when I blindly put INITs in a separate file, setting the file type to INIT so that the INIT31 mechanism would execute them. I liked the idea - no more cut and paste with Resedit, and I could deactivate an INIT by just moving the file out of the System folder ("Blessed folder"). The problem INIT was StartupDesk -- it is quite dramatic,as it expands the SYstem heap, and then allocates a screen buffer in the recently expanded heap. However, as the INIT's Resource map entry was in the App heap, it was zonked by the _SetAppBase call, and so the NewPtr promptly allocated mem over the top of the executing code. The solution is to do a _RecoverHandle, _DetachHandle at the front of the INIT. ------------------------------ From: JOSEF (13690) Subject: s/w dev tools Date: 11-OCT 16:00 Programming I would like to solicit some suggestions/comments from any hard core software developers (or anyone else with an opinion, for that matter). I'm manager of software at a small (~80) company involved in digital voice and telecommunications. We currently do all our s/w development (try not to laugh) on a PDP 11/70 running UNIX V7. There are about 35-40 users(!) connected to the system, which is also used for word processing, spreadsheets, electronic mail, etc. I will soon have the opportunity to replace this antiquated pile of junk with a new system. I havenUt had much time to research it, but right now there appear to be 3 leading contenders: Sun, Apollo, and DEC. I am currently heavily leaning toward installing a network based on Sun's workstations. If anyone has any experience with any of these, I would be very interested in hearing about it. Joe PS: The development tools on our 11/70 are so bad that IUm using my MAC to develop the s/w for a current project. The LightSpeedC/TMON combination are far superior to anything available on the PDP! ------------------------------ From: WESTEN (13710) Subject: HyperDrive FX/20 Date: 11-OCT 22:22 Hardware & Peripherals Steve, do you know anything about the FX/20? How does it compare against the Micah external and the DataFrame (XP or otherwise?). I'm "evaluating " to see if I should carry it in my store (currently carrying Dataframe). The simple observations that I've made are that the laser spooler seems nice (though prone to hang it seems), but the price is higher with only a 3 month warrentee (extension to 1 year for $200), it has a plastic case, is too big to fit in the MacPacks (Linebacker) carrying cases I favor, and is rather loud. Specifically, HyperDrive seems to have a poor reputation for service and reliability...is that likely a function of the internal drive alone or is it likely to carry over to their external drives? (You're not omniscient, of course, but I respect your opinion...fool that I be!). Any comments you might have are appreciated. ------------------------------ From: JOSEF (848) Subject: code segments Date: 11-OCT 16:12 Programming Techniques I have a question about code segments and loading, which results from the fact that until just recently, none of my programs had ever approached the 32K limit. The way I understand it, a given segment (other than CODE 1) is not loaded until a routine in that segment is needed. Does that mean that if I want all the segments loaded at launch time, I have to issue a series of LOADSEG calls in my initialization code, or is there some flag I can set which will do this for me automatically? Joe ------------------------------ From: BRECHER (849) Subject: RE: code segments (Re: Msg 848) Date: 11-OCT 18:21 Programming Techniques Any resources (including CODE resources) that have the resPreload attribute -in the resource file will be loaded before your application starts executing. -How you would go about setting resPreload depends on your development system. In the worst case, you could use ResEdit. ------------------------------ From: MOUSEKETEER (13712) Subject: Usenut Digest Vol. 3 #54 Date: 11-OCT 23:31 Network Digests Usenut Digest, Vol 3, #54 Today's Topics: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Dinner At Sixish Bug? Word Tools Templates Sought Ars Magna Program The New One Slotted Mac, A Review Do The New Colored Disks Cause Cancer? Help For Shareware Authors Why Does It Do This When I Do That, Usually? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: Harvey Unista (harv.uni@harv.uni, #~!) Subject: Tuna Again? We need the help of anyone on this one! Several weeks ago the campus cafeteria began using a Mac on loan from Apple to assist in menu preparation. While the program, Dinner At Sixish, is supposed to suggest menus that -promise a healthy combination from the basic food groups, we have been eating only Tuna Noodle Casserole since the unit's installation! Since this includes lunch, dinner and even breakfast you can imagine the near riots we face three times each day. Does anyone know if Dinner At Sixish actually contains recipes for -anything besides Tuna Noodle Casserole, or if we have a bad copy of the program? Thanks, Harv U, the Chef "Keep a fresh box of Armand Hammer in your frig for a clean, sweet smell." - From the side of a box ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: A guy who doesn't even know Doug Clapp (dclapp@stan.uni @@ stan) Subject: Templates Sought for Word Tools Hi, I'm looking for some ideas in templates for Word Tools. I know the -program isn't really out yet or anything, but if you have some ideas on what could be in a Word Tools template, or in the program at all for that matter, I would like to hear them. Again, let me point out that I don't even know Doug -Clapp, that he and I really aren't good friends, and just because the two of us went halvsies on all that advertising, you shouldn't draw the wrong conclusion. -We really do have a program to bring out...honest! And Doug says...oooops. -Well, anyway, we need ideas, so please send them along. I'll summarize for the -net, of course. Not D.C. "Really, we do have a program to bring out....just be patient, ok?" -- N.D.C. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: incognito dish (intoshod@gini) Subject: Ars Magna Incandescent book worm? Ambivalent fever quips shuck story, prone tall foo bird scribbage. Jury gram roll examine, hybrid prime splash. Depot fish elf impasse, mean nasal paper reservation. Constituent diploma exonerate -hear lounge obstetrician psychic? Stank H! "Pool fromage blister, truck several geese gelatin."-- Spear Shakee ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: John Sculley (n.s.j.@apple.cupertino) Subject: New Slotted Mac Specs You're kidding, right? You didn't really expect to read anything here did -you? Boy, some people are SO gullible! I mean, _I_ know all about the new single slotted Mac coming out next March, but you don't know diddly about it. -That's why I'm CEO and you're not! HA! HA! HA! N.S.J. "We didn't really plan on having many Apple IIGS's for the Christmas selling season, so quit talking about it, OK?" - J.G. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- JEFFS>> Alf, cut that out! That's not a real digest and you know it! MAC> sen jeffs Ooops... ------------------------------